{"id":4296,"date":"2009-06-05T07:49:19","date_gmt":"2009-06-05T14:49:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/?p=4296"},"modified":"2009-10-20T01:50:52","modified_gmt":"2009-10-20T08:50:52","slug":"in-the-beginning-a-kane-chronology-story","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/in-the-beginning-a-kane-chronology-story\/","title":{"rendered":"In the Beginning: a Kane Chronology story"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4297\" title=\"kew\" src=\"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/06\/kew.jpg\" alt=\"kew\" width=\"175\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Fellow blogger Brian Murphy has indicated wanting to hear more about the part of my bio that reads: &#8220;he broke into the fantasy critical world in the gamer&#8217;s magazine <em>Sorceror&#8217;s Apprentice<\/em>, with an essay on Karl Edward Wagner&#8217;s Kane which ultimately prompted the author to correct his own previous statements about the character&#8217;s chronology.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So this is for him, and hopefully some others will be interested. <em>Sorceror&#8217;s Apprentice #3<\/em> (Summer 1979) had the Trout Kane essay (which dealt with the interesting aspects of the character) along with a first stab at the chronology.<\/p>\n<p>This was the story listing, which took the clues from the stories regarding the status of Carsultyal, the Habros Serranthon Empire&#8217;s rise and fall, and other clues.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Undertow<br \/>\nTwo Suns Setting<br \/>\nBLOODSTONE<br \/>\nThe Dark Muse<br \/>\nSing a Last Song of Valdese<br \/>\nLynortis Reprise<br \/>\nDARK CRUSADE<br \/>\nReflections for the Winter of my Soul<br \/>\nCold Light<br \/>\nMirage<br \/>\nRaven&#8217;s Eyrie<br \/>\nDARKNESS WEAVES<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Spacing in time is, of course, wildly varied &#8212; sometimes years, sometimes decades, mostly centuries and sometimes many many centuries, but for the most part obscure. There are really only a few that you can nail down.<\/p>\n<p>So, oddly, the first book published is the last Kane novel to read. Karl noted in his remarks that &#8220;The Other One&#8221; is the last of the short stories, placing it just before DARKNESS WEAVES. I had probably not located a copy of that story yet.<\/p>\n<p>With &#8220;Misericorde&#8221; four years in the future, obviously it&#8217;s not in the list, and I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve ever tried to place it, though I think Joe Marek or Dale Rippke may have. Both have added on to my work, though I don&#8217;t think either of their versions are currently available.<\/p>\n<p>In an afternote to my article, Karl asserted all the story collections were chronological within each book, which would move &#8220;Raven&#8217;s Eyrie&#8221; back to right after &#8220;The Dark Muse&#8221; and I guess he knew best on that one. But it would also reverse the positions of &#8220;Lynortis Reprise&#8221; and &#8220;Sing a Last Song of Valdese&#8221;; which is impossible according to the internal evidence, and I wrote him and told him so and why. So then he remembered that he had preferred to have the closing line of &#8220;Valdese&#8221; be the closing line of the book, and so had switched them.<\/p>\n<p>In his letter admitting he was wrong, he said my point was &#8220;well-made and correct&#8221; and he appointed me &#8220;Kane Chronologist 1st class, with all privileges and obligations attendant on that rank.&#8221; I ran this letter in REHupa #40, but otherwise its been little-known.<\/p>\n<p>John Mayer made a comment a while back on the Wagner Yahoo group that Karl didn&#8217;t really want the readers to know the chronology, so they wouldn&#8217;t be sure whether Kane would survive a particular adventure or not. Apparently, he never expected anyone to notice the switch.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Brian adds:<\/strong> Thanks for sharing, Steve. You&#8217;ve achieved your own small piece of heroic fantasy immortality.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fellow blogger Brian Murphy has indicated wanting to hear more about the part of my bio that reads: &#8220;he broke into the fantasy critical world in the gamer&#8217;s magazine Sorceror&#8217;s Apprentice, with an essay on Karl Edward Wagner&#8217;s Kane which ultimately prompted the author to correct his own previous statements about the character&#8217;s chronology.&#8221; So [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-other-authors","category-wagnerkarledward"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4296","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4296"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4296\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6192,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4296\/revisions\/6192"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4296"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4296"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/leogrin.com\/CimmerianBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4296"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}